>> it's a complaint that all of us have had repeatedly with the obama administration. for health care reform why weren't you fighting for it and selling it so everybody gets on your side. fdr was out there all the time talking about what was being done for americans, and in very clear language. and when romney -- a couple of times just called him flat out a liar and obama didn't respond it was really demoralizing. >> stephanie: yeah, i think rude we talked about this in the aftermath. the incumbent always had a bit of a handicap but i think he was trying to remain above the fray. >> that's one of the lies that republicans tell really well. oh, independent voters they don't want the politicians to attack each other. they want to hear real substantive answers on the issues. oh, bs. and republicans are repeating that talking point while shiving the democrats the whole time. >> stephanie: yeah, what you said about health care, i have to say rude i have never seen a president up against this wall of obstructionism. so i think he did talk about the health care. there was a w